Thin film SOFC fuel cells
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> >However, there seem to be a lot of manipulative press releases in this area, >exceeded only by the flurry of claims for cold fusion. > Speaking of which, we’re overdue for a "breakthrough in solar cell > technology", aren’t we? It’s been nearly a month… 8*)
There you go: "Kyocera Announces World’s Most Efficient (15.7%) Solar Modules in Commercial Production" http://www.japancorp.net/Article.asp?Art_ID=8033
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>However, there seem to be a lot of manipulative press releases in this area, >exceeded only by the flurry of claims for cold fusion.
Speaking of which, we’re overdue for a "breakthrough in solar cell technology", aren’t we? It’s been nearly a month… 8*) — William Smith ComputerSmiths Consulting, Inc. www.compusmiths.com
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>However, there seem to be a lot of manipulative press releases in this area, >exceeded only by the flurry of claims for cold fusion. > Speaking of which, we’re overdue for a "breakthrough in solar cell > technology", aren’t we? It’s been nearly a month… 8*)
What happened to the research in organic semiconductors? Ray
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > 2004/07/22: Eureka: ‘Cool’ fuel cells could revolutionize Earth’s > energy resources > > HOUSTON, July 22, 2004 – As temperatures soar this summer, so do > electric bills. Researchers at the > > University of Houston are striving toward decreasing those costs > with the next revolution in power > > generation. > > Imagine a power source so small, yet so efficient, that it could > make cumbersome power plants > > virtually obsolete while lowering your electric bill. A breakthrough > in thin film solid oxide fuel > > cells (SOFCs) is currently being refined in labs at the University > of Houston, making that dream a > > reality. > > [...] > > Compared to the macroscopic size of traditional fuel cells that can > take up an entire room, thin > > film SOFCs are one micron thick – the equivalent of about > one-hundredth of a human hair. Putting > > this into perspective, the size equivalent of four sugar cubes would > produce 80 watts – more than > > enough to operate a laptop computer, eliminating clunky batteries > and giving you hours more juice > > in your laptop. By the same token, approximately two cans’ worth of > soda would produce more than > > five kilowatts, enough to power a typical household. > > Keeping in mind that one thin film SOFC is just a fraction of the > size of a human hair with an > > output of 0.8 to 0.9 Volts, a stack of 100 to 120 of these fuel > cells would generate about 100 > > volts. When connected to a homeowner’s natural gas line, the stack > would provide the needed > > electrical energy to run the household at an efficiency of > approximately 65 percent. This would be > > a twofold increase over power plants today, as they operate at 30 to > 35 percent efficiency. > > [...] > > <http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-07/uoh-fc072204.php> > > <regards> > > -het > crap > Hmmm… > I have been wondering about this fuel cell. I have seen lots of > promises made about various technologies, some of which come to pass, > and some of which end up going into the trash bin. > In my research, I’m going to note that John says "crap". > John, while researching the above claims (to which you answered ‘crap’), > have you found any info that might prove useful? Specifically, I want > to know if there are any prototypes being tested, and if anyone has > estimated the date of availability. > Ray Drouillard
I think the article implies there is no actual device. As such, it seems to fall into the category of manipulative press releases. That said, I certainly do not rule out that this line of research will be productive. However, there seem to be a lot of manipulative press releases in this area, exceeded only by the flurry of claims for cold fusion.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > 2004/07/22: Eureka: ‘Cool’ fuel cells could revolutionize Earth’s > energy resources > > > HOUSTON, July 22, 2004 – As temperatures soar this summer, so do > electric bills. Researchers at the > > > University of Houston are striving toward decreasing those costs > with the next revolution in power > > > generation. > > > Imagine a power source so small, yet so efficient, that it could > make cumbersome power plants > > > virtually obsolete while lowering your electric bill. A breakthrough > in thin film solid oxide fuel > > > cells (SOFCs) is currently being refined in labs at the University > of Houston, making that dream a > > > reality. > > > [...] > > > Compared to the macroscopic size of traditional fuel cells that can > take up an entire room, thin > > > film SOFCs are one micron thick – the equivalent of about > one-hundredth of a human hair. Putting > > > this into perspective, the size equivalent of four sugar cubes would > produce 80 watts – more than > > > enough to operate a laptop computer, eliminating clunky batteries > and giving you hours more juice > > > in your laptop. By the same token, approximately two cans’ worth of > soda would produce more than > > > five kilowatts, enough to power a typical household. > > > Keeping in mind that one thin film SOFC is just a fraction of the > size of a human hair with an > > > output of 0.8 to 0.9 Volts, a stack of 100 to 120 of these fuel > cells would generate about 100 > > > volts. When connected to a homeowner’s natural gas line, the stack > would provide the needed > > > electrical energy to run the household at an efficiency of > approximately 65 percent. This would be > > > a twofold increase over power plants today, as they operate at 30 to > 35 percent efficiency. > > > [...]
<http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-07/uoh-fc072204.php> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > <regards> > > > -het > > crap > Hmmm… > I have been wondering about this fuel cell. I have seen lots of > promises made about various technologies, some of which come to pass, > and some of which end up going into the trash bin. > In my research, I’m going to note that John says "crap". > John, while researching the above claims (to which you answered ‘crap’), > have you found any info that might prove useful? Specifically, I want > to know if there are any prototypes being tested, and if anyone has > estimated the date of availability. > Ray Drouillard > I think the article implies there is no actual device. > As such, it seems to fall into the category of manipulative press releases. > That said, I certainly do not rule out that this line of research will be > productive. > However, there seem to be a lot of manipulative press releases in this area, > exceeded only by the flurry of claims for cold fusion.
Thank you. I was wondering if that was the case. Ray
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > 2004/07/22: Eureka: ‘Cool’ fuel cells could revolutionize Earth’s energy resources > HOUSTON, July 22, 2004
